South Africans gambled R1.5 trillion in the last year. How did we let things get so bad? One man is on a mission to tackle the crisis: Rise Mzansi MP Makashule Gana.He also happens to be chairing the impeachment committee looking into President Ramaphosa’s couch… aka the Phala Phala scandal.

Host KG Mokgadi sits down with Gana who explains how online gambling turned a weekend outing to the local casino into a nonstop “casino in your pocket” experience - ruining many South African lives.In a broad ranging interview, he talks about his time at the Democratic Alliance, how he uses Comrades Marathon training to calculate his next political move… and even ranks South Africa’s best breakfast cereal.

This man is anti-gambling, but Pronutro.